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Provident Financial Holdings, Inc.Provident Financial Holdings, Inc. operates as the holding company for Provident Savings Bank, F.S.B. that provides community banking services to consumers and small to mid-sized businesses in the Inland Empire region of Southern California. Its deposit products include checking, savings, and money market accounts, as well as time deposits; and loan portfolio consists of single-family, multi-family, commercial real estate, construction, mortgage, commercial business, and consumer loans. The comp
2-Year Price History
Quarterly Financials & Projections
| Period | Rev | EBITDA | OpIn | NI | OCF | FCF | CapEx | Cash | Debt | Shares | ROIC | IntCov | EV/EBITDA | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Est | 2028-Q2 | 16.4 | 3.9 | -- | 2.1 | -- | 2.4 | -0.1 | 74.8 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- |
| Est | 2028-Q1 | 16.3 | 3.8 | -- | 2.0 | -- | 2.3 | -0.1 | 72.4 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- |
| Est | 2027-Q4 | 16.2 | 3.7 | -- | 1.9 | -- | 2.2 | -0.1 | 70.1 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- |
| Est | 2027-Q3 | 16.1 | 3.8 | -- | 2.0 | -- | 2.3 | -0.1 | 67.9 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- |
| Est | 2027-Q2 | 16.0 | 3.7 | -- | 2.0 | -- | 2.1 | -0.1 | 65.6 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- |
| Est | 2027-Q1 | 15.8 | 3.6 | -- | 1.9 | -- | 2.4 | -0.1 | 63.5 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- |
| Est | 2026-Q4 | 15.6 | 3.4 | -- | 1.8 | -- | 2.2 | -0.1 | 61.2 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- |
| Est | 2026-Q3 | 15.3 | 3.1 | -- | 1.7 | -- | 1.8 | -0.1 | 59.0 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- |
| Act | 2026-Q3 | 14.6 | 1.9 | 1.9 | 1.4 | 1.9 | 1.8 | -0.1 | 57.1 | 186.3 | 6.5 | 2.5% | 0.4x | 21.7x |
| Act | 2026-Q2 | 14.9 | 2.1 | 2.1 | 1.4 | 1.2 | 1.3 | -0.0 | 153.3 | 347.0 | 6.5 | 1.5% | 0.4x | 24.1x |
| Act | 2026-Q1 | 15.0 | 3.5 | 2.7 | 1.7 | 2.5 | 2.5 | -0.0 | 49.7 | 214.0 | 6.7 | 2.9% | 0.7x | 21.6x |
| Act | 2025-Q4 | 15.0 | 3.2 | 2.3 | 1.6 | 2.5 | 2.2 | -0.3 | 53.2 | 213.1 | 6.7 | 2.6% | 0.6x | 20.7x |
| Act | 2025-Q3 | 15.3 | 3.4 | 2.7 | 1.9 | 3.3 | 3.3 | -0.0 | 51.1 | 215.6 | 6.7 | 3.0% | 0.7x | 21.3x |
| Act | 2025-Q2 | 14.9 | 2.1 | 1.2 | 0.9 | 0.3 | 0.3 | -0.0 | 47.3 | 245.5 | 6.8 | 1.3% | 0.4x | 24.1x |
| Act | 2025-Q1 | 15.0 | 3.6 | 2.7 | 1.9 | 2.6 | 2.4 | -0.2 | 50.0 | 249.5 | 6.9 | 2.7% | 0.7x | 20.4x |
| Act | 2024-Q4 | 15.4 | 3.6 | 2.8 | 2.0 | -0.8 | -0.9 | -0.1 | 53.2 | 385.4 | 6.9 | 1.9% | 0.7x | 31.4x |
| Act | 2024-Q3 | 14.7 | 2.9 | 2.1 | 1.5 | 3.0 | 2.6 | -0.4 | 53.7 | 399.1 | 6.9 | 1.4% | 0.6x | 32.1x |
| Act | 2024-Q2 | 14.5 | 3.8 | 3.0 | 2.1 | 0.1 | -0.4 | -0.5 | 48.9 | 242.5 | 7.0 | 3.1% | 0.8x | 19.4x |
| Act | 2024-Q1 | 14.1 | 3.3 | 2.5 | 1.8 | 3.4 | 2.8 | -0.6 | 60.1 | 235.0 | 7.0 | 2.6% | 0.8x | 17.6x |
| Act | 2023-Q4 | 14.1 | 3.6 | 2.8 | 1.8 | 4.5 | 4.5 | -0.0 | 68.0 | 235.0 | 7.1 | 2.7% | 1.0x | 16.8x |
| Act | 2023-Q3 | 13.0 | 4.1 | 3.3 | 2.3 | 6.6 | 6.5 | -0.2 | 63.0 | 205.0 | 7.2 | 3.8% | 1.6x | 14.6x |
| Act | 2023-Q2 | 12.1 | 4.1 | 3.4 | 2.4 | 3.0 | 2.6 | -0.4 | 27.2 | 180.0 | 7.2 | 4.3% | 2.3x | 16.0x |
| Act | 2023-Q1 | 10.9 | 3.9 | 3.0 | 2.1 | 2.3 | 2.1 | -0.2 | 41.2 | 115.0 | 7.3 | 5.4% | 4.1x | 10.9x |
| Act | 2022-Q4 | 10.4 | 4.5 | 3.6 | 2.5 | 4.4 | 4.4 | -0.1 | 26.1 | 85.0 | 7.3 | 7.9% | 6.3x | 10.1x |
| Act | 2022-Q3 | 9.4 | 3.6 | 2.4 | 1.7 | 1.7 | 1.6 | -0.1 | 63.1 | 80.0 | 7.4 | 5.7% | 5.0x | -- |
| Act | 2022-Q2 | 9.9 | 4.7 | 3.2 | 2.3 | 2.6 | 2.6 | -0.0 | 88.8 | 80.0 | 7.5 | 7.5% | 5.5x | -- |
| Act | 2022-Q1 | 9.8 | 5.0 | 3.6 | 2.7 | 3.1 | 3.0 | -0.0 | 91.6 | 90.0 | 7.6 | 8.1% | 5.8x | -- |
Multiples vs the company's own history — cheap or rich relative to itself? Historical fiscal years, then TTM, then forward projections (E). Forward rows hold today's price against projected earnings, so the multiple compresses if the company grows into it.
| Year | Price | Rev Gr | EBITDA % | EBITDA | EV/EBITDA | EV/FCF | P/E | P/S |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2022 | 12.12 | — | 44.9% | 18 | 9.1× | 13.9× | 11.3× | 2.6× |
| 2023 | 11.59 | +26.9% | 31.2% | 16 | 16.5× | 16.6× | 10.6× | 1.8× |
| 2024 | 15.21 | +17.2% | 23.1% | 14 | 31.7× | 104.7× | 13.2× | 1.6× |
| 2025 | 15.77 | +2.5% | 20.6% | 12 | 21.1× | 32.0× | 16.1× | 1.7× |
| TTM | 16.95 | -1.9% | 18.1% | 11 | 0.0× | 0.0× | 0.0× | 0.0× |
| 2027E | 16.95 | +8.0% | 0.2% | 0 | 0.0× | 0.0× | 0.0× | 0.0× |
EBITDA in reporting-currency $M. Historical multiples use year-end market cap (split-adjusted price history); TTM & forward years use today's.
AI Analysis
LLM Evaluations
Provident Financial Holdings is a well-capitalized, conservatively managed community bank with pristine credit quality and a shareholder-friendly capital return policy (170% of net income returned). However, the investment case is undermined by a stagnant-to-shrinking balance sheet, geographic concentration in a single California market, consecutive earnings misses, and a reliance on provision reversals to support earnings. NIM expansion from wholesale funding repricing provides a near-term tailwind, but the loan book is struggling to grow due to elevated payoffs and competitive multifamily lending markets. At ~11x P/FCF, the valuation appears reasonable but not compelling given the lack of organic growth catalysts, declining analyst estimates, and a sub-2% ROIC. There are better opportunities elsewhere in the regional bank space with stronger growth profiles.
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Transcript Summary
Provident Financial Holdings reported a quarter characterized by high activity but relatively flat balance sheet growth. Loan originations reached $42.1 million, a 42% sequential increase, though this was offset by $46.7 million in payoffs driven by lower interest rates. Consequently, loans held for investment slightly decreased by $4.1 million. Asset quality remains exceptional, with nonperforming assets at a mere 8 basis points and no early-stage delinquencies. The net interest margin (NIM) expanded 3 basis points to 3.03%, aided by lower borrowing costs, despite a 5 basis point drag from accelerated deferred loan costs related to payoffs. Management expressed optimism regarding NIM expansion in the coming quarters as $188.5 million in wholesale funding is set to reprice lower. The company continues its shareholder-friendly capital allocation, returning 170% of net income through dividends and buybacks. Operating expenses are expected to stabilize at a $7.6 million to $7.7 million quarterly run rate following a one-time $214,000 settlement. Overall, the bank is navigating a volatile rate environment with a focus on disciplined growth and maintaining its solid financial foundation in the California market.
Valuation & Metrics
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DCF Fair Value Estimate
Forward Outlook & Risk
Short Interest
Forward Projections & Estimates
Employees
Institutional Ownership
Headline & net flow
In Q1 2026 so far (quarter still filing), institutions are roughly balanced — bought 1.5% of float, sold 0.7%.
Ownership composition
Top holders
| Fund | $ value | Cost basis | Δ QoQ | Δ YoY | α life | Fund AUM |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| DIMENSIONAL FUND ADVISORS LPPassive | $7.9M | $13.96 | −$14K | +$34K | -0.4% | $480.92B |
| RAFFLES ASSOCIATES LP | $6.3M | $12.42 | −$2K | −$37K | -1.1% | $115M |
| Fourthstone LLC | $5.9M | $15.20 | +$217K | +$4.5M | -1.8% | $590M |
| MANUFACTURERS LIFE INSURANCE COMPANY, THE | $4.9M | $14.14 | −$76K | −$380K | -0.2% | $113.45B |
| M3F, Inc. | $4.6M | $13.28 | −$242K | −$2.5M | +1.6% | $404M |
| AMERIPRISE FINANCIAL INC | $4.6M | $14.07 | −$5K | −$121K | -0.1% | $430.96B |
| BlackRock, Inc.Passive | $4.4M | $13.62 | +$4K | +$19K | -0.2% | $5.69T |
| VANGUARD CAPITAL MANAGEMENT LLCPassive | $3.9M | $16.12 | +$3.9M | +$3.9M | — | $4.04T |
| RENAISSANCE TECHNOLOGIES LLC | $3.4M | $11.59 | −$106K | −$401K | +1.2% | $63.91B |
| BRIDGEWAY CAPITAL MANAGEMENT, LLC | $1.1M | $13.54 | +$39K | +$77K | -2.3% | $4.93B |
| GEODE CAPITAL MANAGEMENT, LLCPassive | $925K | $12.60 | −$0 | −$91K | +2.3% | $1.61T |
| Empowered Funds, LLC | $546K | $12.55 | +$39K | +$77K | +0.2% | $15.64B |
| VANGUARD FIDUCIARY TRUST COPassive | $533K | $16.12 | +$533K | +$533K | — | $395.83B |
| FEDERATED HERMES, INC. | $530K | $13.72 | +$52K | +$121K | -1.1% | $61.33B |
| ACADIAN ASSET MANAGEMENT LLC | $475K | $15.71 | +$33K | −$48K | -0.5% | $70.48B |
| STATE STREET CORPPassive | $401K | $15.48 | +$13K | +$13K | -0.2% | $2.89T |
| NORTHERN TRUST CORPPassive | $361K | $13.41 | +$32K | −$66K | -0.2% | $755.34B |
| SUSQUEHANNA INTERNATIONAL GROUP, LLPMM | $300K | $15.57 | −$35K | +$300K | -0.6% | $77.14B |
| GOLDMAN SACHS GROUP INC | $205K | $16.12 | +$42K | +$205K | — | $760.93B |
| Bank of New York Mellon Corp | $178K | $12.92 | −$41K | −$41K | -0.2% | $543.21B |
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Top-5 holders · 57.4%
Top Holders Over Time
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Analyst Coverage
| Quarter | Revenue | EBITDA | Net Inc | EPS | EPS Range | # Analysts |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2025 Q1 | 10M | 3M | 2M | $0.24 | $0.21 – $0.27 | 2 |
| 2025 Q2 | 10M | 3M | 2M | $0.32 | $0.27 – $0.36 | 1 |
| 2025 Q3 | 10M | 3M | 2M | $0.30 | $0.28 – $0.32 | 2 |
| 2025 Q4 | 10M | 3M | 2M | $0.35 | $0.35 – $0.35 | 1 |
| 2026 Q1 | 10M | 3M | 2M | $0.31 | $0.31 – $0.31 | 1 |
| 2026 Q2 | 11M | 3M | 2M | $0.31 | $0.31 – $0.31 | 1 |
| 2026 Q3 | 11M | 3M | 2M | $0.29 | $0.29 – $0.29 | 1 |
| 2026 Q4 | 11M | 3M | 2M | $0.33 | $0.33 – $0.33 | 1 |
| 2027 Q1 | 10M | 3M | 2M | $0.34 | $0.34 – $0.34 | 1 |
| 2027 Q2 | 11M | 3M | 2M | $0.36 | $0.36 – $0.36 | 1 |
Corporate
Executive Compensation (2023-2025)
Insider Trading (last 12mo)
| Date | Side | Insider | Title | Shares | Price | Dollars | Owned $ |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2025-11-12 | SELL | Wertz Gwendolyn | officer: Senior Vice President | 4,800 | $15.64 | $75K | $321K |
| 2025-06-10 | SELL | Wertz Gwendolyn | officer: Senior Vice President | 1,940 | $15.40 | $30K | $390K |
Order Flow (FINRA, ~3w lag)
Revenue Breakdown
Revenue Segments
| Debit Card | $0.3M | NEW |
| Deposit Account | $0.3M | -2% |
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Provident Financial Holdings Inc: Routine Administrative Filing Lacks Material Forensic Red Flags
Counter-Thesis
Counter-Thesis & Recent News
Provident Financial Holdings reported a significant double-miss for its Q2 fiscal 2026 results (ended Dec 31, 2025). The company posted an EPS of $0.22, falling roughly 35% short of the $0.34 consensus estimate. Revenue also missed at $9.84 million against the $10.5 million forecast. This follows a previous earnings miss in Q1 fiscal 2026 (Oct 2025), where the company fell short on both top and bottom lines. Net income for the most recent quarter was $1.44 million, reflecting a 15% sequential decline from the previous quarter.
The bear case centers on stagnant growth and tightening margins. Despite operational improvements in loan originations, the company has struggled to translate this into bottom-line profitability. Analysts have highlighted that rising operating expenses are pressuring net margins, while the impact of loan repricing remains highly uncertain. Furthermore, consensus estimates for fiscal year 2027 have been revised downward, and current price targets from firms like MarketBeat ($16.00) suggest the stock is fully valued or even carries slight downside risk from current trading levels.
Sequential profitability is trending downward, with net income dropping 15% in the latest quarter. Insider activity shows a senior executive (SVP Gwendolyn Wertz) sold 4,800 shares in November 2025 at $15.64, coinciding with the period of repeated earnings misses. Additionally, the company has surpassed consensus EPS estimates only once in the last four quarters, indicating a pattern of over-promising and under-delivering to the market.
Provident faces extreme geographic concentration risk, with the vast majority of its loan portfolio tied to the Southern California and Inland Empire housing markets. Management has acknowledged that the California housing market is currently challenged by demand far outstripping available supply, which limits loan volume growth. The bank also faces intense competition for deposits in its regional footprint, which is likely to keep funding costs elevated and further erode net interest margins (NIM).
While the bank maintains an A+ rating from the BBB, recent consumer sentiment is skewed negative. Verifiable customer reviews from early 2026 cite 'terrible service' and frustrations regarding unexplained holds on funds. Unlike its larger peers, Provident's customer service profile is thinly supported, leaving it vulnerable to reputational damage in a tight-knit regional market like Riverside County.
Full Earnings Call Transcript
Full Earnings Call Transcript — Q2 • 2026-01-28
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. My name is Colby, and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I'd like to welcome you to the Provident Financial Holdings' Second Quarter of Fiscal 2026 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] I will now turn the call over to Donavon Ternes, President and CEO. You may begin. Donavon Ternes: Thank you, Colby. Good morning. This is Donavon Ternes, President and CEO of Provident Financial Holdings. And on the call with me is Peter Fan, our Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I have a brief administrative item to address. Our presentation today discusses the company's business outlook and will include forward-looking statements. Those statements include descriptions of management's plans, objectives or goals for future operations, products or services, forecasts of financial or other performance measures and statements about the company's general outlook for interest rates, economic and business conditions. We also may make forward-looking statements during the question-and-answer period following management's presentation. These forward-looking statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties, and actual results may differ materially from those discussed today. Information on the risk factors that could cause actual results to differ from any forward-looking statement is available from the earnings release that was distributed yesterday, from the annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended June 30, 2025, and from the Form 10-Qs and other SEC filings that are filed subsequent to the Form 10-K. Forward-looking statements are effective only as of the date that they are made, and the company assumes no obligation to update this information. To begin with, thank you for participating in our call. I hope that each of you has had an opportunity to review our earnings release that we distributed yesterday, which describes our second quarter fiscal 2026 results. In the most recent quarter, we originated $42.1 million of loans held for investment, a 42% increase from the $29.6 million that were originated in the prior sequential quarter. During the most recent quarter, we also had $46.7 million of loan principal payments and payoffs, which is an increase of 35% from the $34.5 million in the September 2025 quarter. Lower mortgage rates have driven stronger loan origination activity but also has led to higher prepayment activity. We are continuing to make prudent adjustments to our underwriting requirements within certain loan segments to promote disciplined, sustainable growth in origination volume. Our loan pipelines are moderately higher than last quarter, suggesting our loan origination volume in the March 2026 quarter will be within the range of recent quarters which has been between $28 million and $42 million. For the 3 months ended December 31, 2025, loans held for investment decreased by approximately $4.1 million with a decline in multifamily, commercial business and commercial real estate loans, partly offset by an increase in single-family and construction loans. Current credit quality continues to hold up very well. And you will note that nonperforming assets were just $990,000 or 8 basis points of total assets at December 31, 2025, a decrease from $1.9 million at September 30, 2025. Additionally, there were no loans in the early stages of delinquency at December 31, 2025, indicating an absence of emerging credit issues. We continue to monitor commercial real estate loans, particularly loans secured by office buildings, but are confident that based on the underwriting characteristics of our borrowers and collateral that these loans will continue to perform well. We have outlined these characteristics on Slide 13 of our quarterly investor presentation, which shows that our exposure to loans secured by various types of office buildings is $36.7 million or 3.5% of loans held for investment. You should also note that we have just six CRE loans, that total $2.8 million, maturing in the remainder of fiscal 2026. We recorded a $158,000 recovery of credit losses in the December 2025 quarter. The recovery recorded in the second quarter of fiscal 2026 was primarily attributable to a decline in the expected life of the loan portfolio due to lower mortgage interest rates. The allowance for credit losses to gross loans held for investment was 55 basis points at December 31, 2025, a slight decrease from 56 basis points at September 30, 2025. Our net interest margin increased 3 basis points to 3.03% for the quarter ended December 31, 2025, compared to the 3% for the sequential quarter ended September 30, 2025, the net result of a 5 basis point decrease in the cost of total interest-bearing liabilities net of a 2 basis point decrease in the yield of total interest-earning assets. Our average cost of deposits decreased to 1.32%, down 2 basis points for the quarter ended December 31, 2025, while our cost of borrowing decreased 20 basis points to 4.39% in December 2025 quarter compared to the September 2025 quarter. The net deferred loan cost amortization associated with loan payoffs in the December 2025 quarter compared to the average of the previous 5 quarters negatively impacted the net interest margin by approximately 5 basis points in contrast to no impact in the September 2025 quarter. New loan production is being originated at higher mortgage interest rates than the weighted average rate of the existing loan portfolio. The weighted average rate of loans originated in the December 2025 quarter was 6.15% compared to the weighted average rate of 5.22% for loans held for investment as of December 31, 2025. In the March 2026 quarter, our adjustable rate loans are repricing at interest rates that are slightly lower than their current interest rates. We have approximately $112.2 million of loans repricing in the March 2026 quarter to an interest rate that we currently believe will be 14 basis points lower to a weighted average interest rate of 6.85% from the current interest rate of 6.99%. However, in the June 2026 quarter, we have approximately $125.2 million of loans repricing to an interest rate that we currently believe will be 38 basis points higher to a weighted average interest rate of 6.49% from 6.11%. Many of these loans are already in their adjustable phase of the loan term with rate resets every 6 months. I would also point out that there is an opportunity to reprice maturing wholesale funding downward as a result of current market conditions, where interest rates have moved lower across all terms. Excluding overnight borrowings, we have approximately $109 million of Federal Home Loan Bank advances, brokered certificates of deposit and government certificate of deposit maturing in the March 2026 quarter at a weighted average interest rate of 4.12%. Additionally, we have approximately $79.5 million of Federal Home Loan Bank advances, brokered certificates of deposit and government certificates of deposit maturing in the June 2026 quarter at a weighted average interest rate of 4.15%. Given the current interest rate outlook, we would expect to reprice these maturities to a lower weighted average cost of funds. All of this currently suggests that there continues to be an opportunity for net interest margin expansion in the March 2026 quarter. Our FTE count at December 31, 2025, was 163 compared to 162 1 year ago. We continue to look for operating efficiencies throughout the company to lower operating expenses. Operating expenses were $7.9 million in the December 2025 quarter, an increase from $7.6 million in the September 2025 quarter. Operating expenses for the December 2025 quarter included a $214,000 pre-litigation voluntary mediation settlement expense related to an employment matter. For the remainder of fiscal 2026, we expect a run rate of approximately $7.6 million to $7.7 million per quarter. Our short-term strategy focuses on disciplined balance sheet growth by expanding our loan portfolio. We believe this approach is well suited to the stable economic environment and the ongoing normalization of the yield curve. During the December 2025 quarter, we were partly successful in the execution of this strategy with higher loan origination volume, but higher loan prepayments more than offset that growth. As a result, the overall composition of our interest-earning assets and interest-bearing liabilities were essentially consistent with the prior quarter. We exceed well-capitalized capital ratios by a significant margin, allowing us to execute on our business plan and capital management goals without complications. We continue -- we believe that maintaining our cash dividend is very important. We also recognize that prudent capital returns to shareholders through stock buyback programs is a responsible capital management tool and we repurchased approximately $96,000 of common stock in the December 2025 quarter. For the second quarter of our fiscal year, we distributed $906,000 of cash dividends to shareholders and repurchased approximately $1.5 million worth of common stock. Accordingly, our capital management activities represent a 170% distribution of the December 2025 quarter's net income. We encourage everyone to review our December 31 investor presentation that has been posted on our website. You will find that we included slides regarding financial metrics, asset quality and capital management, which we believe will provide additional insight on our solid financial foundation supporting the future growth of the company. Colby, we will now entertain any questions that others may have regarding our financial results. Operator: [Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Timothy Coffey with Janney. Timothy Coffey: Given the puts and takes that you just described on the loan portfolio, what is the probability that your portfolio is flat with -- the next 4 quarters? Donavon Ternes: Well, it's kind of a loaded question that I could answer if I knew what loan payoffs looked like for the next few quarters. What we've been focusing on is increasing our origination volume each and every quarter. We've been able to do so essentially for the last 5 quarters or so. We have pipelines that are built that suggest the March 2026 quarter will also be a higher origination-volume quarter, but it's very difficult to discern what loan payoffs look like, which will ultimately then drive what the loan balances look like at the end of the quarter and whether or not we grew those balances or essentially were somewhat flat. Timothy Coffey: Do you see the loans repricing in the June quarter as a potential headwind to loan growth? Donavon Ternes: Not necessarily, Tim. When we think about where those loans are repricing, and we compare to current market conditions with respect to new loan production, it looks like they're a bit higher than new loan production, but they're not substantially higher from where new loan production is coming in. So that could have an impact, there could be implications with respect to that. But ultimately, if they are not repricing substantially higher than current market conditions, I would not expect that driver alone to be the driver of accelerated loan payoffs. The other thing to think about, Tim, with respect to accelerated loan payoffs, it's kind of a double-edged sword. On the one hand, we obviously have trouble growing the loan portfolio to a large degree if those payoffs are higher or those payoff volumes are higher. But secondarily, those payoffs generally carry net deferred loan costs that get accelerated in as a debit or a decline to net interest income over the quarter. And the most recent quarter, those payoffs essentially impacted our net interest margin by a negative 5 basis points, in contrast to no implications or no impact in the September quarter, if we look at those net deferred loan costs on average for the prior 5 quarters. So the implications of loan payoffs are twofold, difficulty in growing loan portfolio and secondarily, there are implications to our net interest margin. Timothy Coffey: Right. Okay. And then the government -- federal government has recently discussed -- [ floated ] ideas on how to make housing more affordable. If some of those plans come through, would that be a net positive for your business? Donavon Ternes: Well, I think ultimately, if you look at -- particularly in California, where we lend, if you look at housing stock or available inventory, you find that there is much more demand than available inventory over time. And I think that has exhausted many would-be purchasers particularly as it relates to affordability. And what that housing stock pricing has done, even though pricing has slowed, it is still advancing a bit in the state of California, not at the rate that it was advancing, nonetheless, it's still advancing. Interest rates are a bit favorable with respect to affordability. As those rates come down, affordability goes up. But ultimately, in the state of California, available housing is far outstripped by demand. And so anything that is done, I guess, by local, state or federal governments that would expand available housing, lowering new construction costs and the like would be helpful. And that would ultimately drive more buyers, I believe. Operator: [Operator Instructions] And with no further questions in queue, I'd like to turn the conference back over to Donavon for closing remarks. Donavon Ternes: Thank you, Colby, and thank you, everyone, for attending our second quarter earnings call, and I look forward to the next call for -- with our third quarter earnings. Have a good day. Operator: This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.